So Sunday night I lost my Ishkur when I tried to pop a Rifter lounging off a gate. Sentry guns still hurt, FYI. I asked on twitter for guides to low sec piracy (although I think of myself as more of an anarchist rather than a pirate) but most suggestions were to Wensley's excellent Rifter guide and the issue I have with that is that I want to be able to fight on gates as well as belts since low sec belt ratters are a dead breed for all intents and purposes.
That means, as I was brutally reminded Sunday, I need something able to tank sentry guns for a bit for when I'm feeling aggressive/opportunistic, yet mobile enough to get around.
So first the list of ships able to meet these criteria is the utilitarian Battlecruiser class. I've got a lot of options since I cross trained all four races and the tech II medium weapons, but the first ship that comes to mind is the popular Hurricane. (I considered going back to my old standby Myrmidon but I would like something a little less pokey.)
[Hurricane, low sec]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II
I'm thinking of buying 5 of these and just going to town until they are all gone and I learn something for a change.
The other, more expensive option is to look at the tech II HACs and command ships, or event Tech III strategic cruisers. For HACs, the Vagabond and Ishtar appeal, and I even have an Ishtar down in Tash Murkon space I used a bit on Sunday, but the cost of such ships while I'm still trying to regain my low sec pvp legs would be high.
I could look at battleships, but the mobility issue raises its head as well as locking times and higher cost.
Opinions are welcome.
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Go Cane. The problem with other options, while they may work here and there, is getting fights. You'll get many more fights in the Cane, than you will in any T2, HAC or CS believe me. Canes often appear on scan, the others will mostly scare people away or cause them to form up to kill you.
ReplyDeleteIf you are fitting up 5 then don't fit them all the exact same way. What you've posted is the standard AC Cane fit, but an Arty fit Cane can also be tons of fun (think LR Drake but with a Cane), or fit smaller ACs and go after frigates with a scram instead of a disr.
Canes are versatile and if you are doing this to have fun and learn, then mix it up and have a blast.
The PODLA Drake might be an option too (you of all people should have good Dari skills after all ;-) )
ReplyDeleteNeeds AWU5 and a +1% PG implant or you can compromise with a meta 4 extender;
[Drake, PODLA Drake]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
For the Drake fit above you can use a pair of Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction instead of the T2 LSE's. This allows you to drop the implant and cram a small neut on there.
ReplyDeleteArmor cane is also very nice for fighting on gates and stations in low.
[Hurricane, Dual Neut Plated Hurricane]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1
Only problem is once you start a fight you are there to the end. While the shield cane gives the option of running away.
Good luck and good hunting,
Naoru
Personally for fighting under guns, if you expect to be taking fire on the gate aswell as gate fire then the Hurricane will melt. I personally would favour the Drake in my limited experience, but not of the PODLA variety as again I don't find the tank on them that impressive. The addiitonal of even a single invuln in place of the web would make a huge difference.
ReplyDelete[Drake, Modi HAM Drake]
ReplyDeleteDamage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Scrambler II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
80k EHP(omni)
563 dps (including drones, before overheat)
People either think loldrake or lolbait.
You're in a 1-2 man corp so the lolbait bit is slightly overlooked, tho ur e-fame changes all of it.....
Anyhoo, lots of dps, lots of ehp, and overlooked/underrated, Check out kovorix' latest pvp vid to see it in action.
I cant wait to try this myself, but i havent had much time lately and am ofc stuck in 0.0 :(
-Lords
Wensley did some posts on using a 'Cane, an arty 'Cane if I remember. Not sure if it would be good under gate guns, but worth checking out I think.
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