It looks like my initial prediction of no "full scale sov war with the goal being the utter destruction of one side or the other, or at least pushing one side out of null sec sov holder status which usually precedes a breakup and a few alliance closures" is going to be true as Montolio of Test alliance has backed down and cooler heads in Pandemic Legion, Goonswarm, and others have prevailed.
Its a sad statement on the status of Goonswarm when the prospect of big ass fights that mean something in the long run is not enough to get them to commit to a fight. Its an even sadder statement on how far Pandemic Legion has fallen into the glut of Technetium decadence that they are the one's cautioning against full out war and instead think their should be safe and controlled consensual PvP.
Holy Fuck.
These are the same luminaries that proudly proclaim that suicide ganking in high sec should be protected as a game play style because Eve is a non-consensual PvP game. At least the old Northern Coalition had the guts to start a war with its coalition level rivals ("LXQ2-T or bust!" I was there!).
The story that all that sov structure grinding is too much to contemplate and its all CCP's fault because they have not revisited the Dominion sov rules rings hollow when one realizes that only an idiot thinks that to win a war in Eve you have to beat all of his sov structures like a game of space chess. You beat the enemy's morale to a pulp first, then you let the grunts who want the space clean up the sov grind. The Mittani and Shadoo are quite aware of this, I'm sure, but don't let truth get in the way of good propaganda.
Never thought I'd feel sorry for Montolio.
If all this stage show has been real, its been very illuminating on the state of null sec in these big coalitions. I hope whatever "war" these entities starts burns out of control due to the bloodthirstiness of the grunts and the grudges that are sure to develop. I kind of also want Goons and Pandemic Legion to take some boots to the teeth in this war, but I'm not betting any money.
On the other hand, who cares? Low sec is where the fun is... =)
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It's certainly a U-turn over past propaganda that the only thing that could hurt the Goons is their members getting bored and not logging in anymore.
ReplyDeleteThere seems to be a lot of interesting pvp outside of null - fw and wh pvp look good as does the use of whs to raid null that Verge of Collapse has been pioneering.
Dude, using WHs to raid Null has been going on since they first popped up. Some of us have actual memories, so VOC can suck it trying to take credit for that.
DeleteLOL, love you Rixx. Never change :)
DeleteSorry if I was unclear - I meant raid effectively.
DeleteI am also reminded of the situation CVA was facing back when they were could haven taken -A-'s peace offers.
ReplyDeleteAfter rejecting the peace offers for role playing reasons (amongst others), CVA got stomped and technically lost the game (specifically Providence) for a while and risked extinction - but in the process they enjoyed game play beyond the "Capture the Flag" sov diplomacy.
So you're mad that GSF just trolled all of eve online? That's kind of their gig.
ReplyDeleteJust sad to see you guys becoming old and dull.
DeleteNot mad, more saddened. It could have been an epic war. Goon and Test propaganda are the best propaganda. :)
DeleteYup, amazing turn of events. CFC/PL side stepped potentially the largest war in EVE. That being said, hasn't irl military history shown this is a valid tactic when one side considers themselves ill prepared? Might we see CFC strike the HBC, at a time of the former's choosing, in the near future?
ReplyDeleteThe problem with coalition warfare is getting all members of a coalition to work together. Expect a protracted propaganda campaign to paint the Testies as clueless idiots who can't be trusted first.
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